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Getting The Fear
Feb 22, 2020
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https://www.winterwatch.net/2019/06/the-use-of-cultists-and-serial-killers-in-death-squad-hits/
The Use of Cultists and Serial Killers in Death Squad Hits

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Getting The Fear
Jan 30, 2020
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https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio You were supposed to attack civilians, women, children, innocent people from outside the political arena. For one simple reason: To force the Italian public to turn to the State turn to the regime and ask for greater security. -Convicted Gladio terrorist Vincenzo Vinciguerra El Paso mass shooter Patrick Crusius has strange connections. His father worked with cult leader/human trafficker “John of God”, an evil character promoted by Oprah. Here’s a short clip of Patrick Crusius’ father talking about mass shipments of crystal balls and his friend John of God. A very weird scene. https://streamable.com/okzoe Crusius’ dad is a mental health counselor who once advocated for a victim of gun violence referred to him by the Veterans Administration. https://www.thedailybeast.com/suspected-el-paso-shooter-patrick-crusius-dad-once-sought-to-help-gun-violence-victim?via=twitter_page John of God https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/João_Teixeira_de_Faria Oprah’s involvement: Below is one of the last tweets NXIVM cult leader Allison Mack made before fleeing to Mexico- a picture of Marina Abramovic. I can’t spell that witch’s name right apparently... Notable 🍕gate occultist Marina Abrajmavic made a documentary featuring John Of God. Marina Abramavic on the left, John Of God on the right. How many Dave McGowan buzzwords can you find in these articles about two separate mass shooters? I found quite a few. Luby’s shooter https://real-life-villains.fandom.com/wiki/George_Hennard McDonald’s shooter https://real-life-villains.fandom.com/wiki/James_Oliver_Huberty
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Getting The Fear
Jan 25, 2020
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Steve Smith is the author of the book The Psychopath Machine (thepsychopathmachine.com). Here he discusses the experiments at Canada’s Penetang hospital to identify and CREATE psychopaths for military and intelligence agencies. I think everyone is clear that psychopaths are among us and probably more than ever in positions of authority because the experiments from the '50s, '60s, early '70s were so damn successful, now we're swimming in the results.”-Steve Smith I’ve put the most damning info in bold if one wants to skim through. In 1968, when he was just a teenager, Steve found himself pulled into the justice system in Canada, and as happens all too often the system sort of took over and Steve, though he was brought in for a very minor crime, eventually ended up at a maximum security mental hospital for the criminally insane called Penetanguishene Mental Hospital, Oak Ridge Division. There he was subjected to a really bizarre series of "treatments".  A Canadian judge has recently ruled these treatments should be more rightly called torture. Globe and Mail, June 7, 2017, "Doctors tortured patients at Ontario mental-health centre, judge rules": "Patients at a maximum security mental health facility in Ontario were tortured by medical doctors over a 17 year period in unethical and degrading human experiments a judge has ruled in a lawsuit. Techniques used on the patients between 1966 and 1983 included solitary confinement as treatment and as punishment, administration of hallucinogens and delirium producing drugs, including LSD, scopolamine, methedrine and brainwashing methods developed by the CIA according to Justice Paul Perrell of Ontario Superior Court of Justice." "Some of the patients at Oak Ridge division of the Penetanguishene Mental Health Center in central Ontario had been charged with crimes such as rape, murder and child abuse and been found not guilty by reason of insanity. Others had simply been committed by their doctors. Oak Ridge doctors contended that with intensive therapy the patients could some day be freed. An estimated 1,260 patients spent time in the program between 1965 and 1979." “They weren't looking to cure psychopaths. They were looking to either uncover psychopaths and put them to use or to create psychopaths. That's what this was about. The concept of psychopathy was relatively new then. They didn't know a lot about it, how does one become a psychopath? Because of the nature of these people, they commit these crimes with absolutely no conscience, no empathy. To certain elements of society -- military, police -- that can be a useful thing, someone working for you that has no empathy. So I believe that this program in Oak Ridge and other places inspired by CIA and other defense contractors, they were looking for ways to sort out non-psychopaths from psychopathic personalities and put them to use, and that's precisely what they did. Over a period of maybe 20 years of research, I found enough evidence to really back that up. But getting on to the people again, one that recently died, Peter Woodcock, also known as Kruger, a very bad guy, multiple child molester and murderer ... I was handcuffed to this guy while on drugs for days on end -- just nightmare scenarios. These are all very bad people.” Mp3 Audio interview with Steve Smith https://archive.org/details/SteveSmith-ThePsychopathMachine Transcript: https://ourhiddenhistory.org/entry/steve-smith-s-the-psychopath-machine-mkultra-linked-torture-at-oak-ridge Steve SmithI think Matt Lamb's case, it may be the one case that absolutely defines what this place was about. Matt Lamb, he shot four people in Toronto for no apparent reason, killed two of them and maimed two of them with a shotgun back in I believe it was 1965. He was a very intelligent, articulate, attractive ... He was the typical psychopath through and through. He was one of Dr. Barker's favorite patients. He was given more LSD apparently than anyone in clinical history and he was one of Barker's main subjects. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathew_Charles_Lamb His fate ... He was released from Oak Ridge in 1972, where he went to live with Dr. Barker and his family on Barker's farm, doing manual labor for him. He next went to Israel and joined the IDF and fought in the Yom Kippur War. Now this is where it gets really complicated. If you look up Matthew Lamb on Wikipedia ... You know that Wikipedia is just filled with lies and manipulations. The story has been altered. He did indeed go to Israel, but they're claiming that the Israeli military refused him. They didn't refuse him. He joined the IDF, where he fought in the Yom Kippur war. I have Barker's own words telling me this, which I will publish. He fought in the Yom Kippur War. He returned afterwards, disillusioned with the IDF, that's Barker's words, and went back to Barker's farm. He next went to Rhodesia, where he was killed in the Bush War in 1976. He was killed in the Bush War by friendly fire apparently. The questions that this brings up ... First of all, Matt Lamb was under the Lieutenant Governor's Warrant. That is, he was found not guilty by reason of insanity. That would mean that he would essentially be locked up in a mental hospital forever until he could prove that he was no longer a danger to anyone. The very fact that he told Barker that he wanted to join the military, that means he wanted to have a gun in his hands again. As far as I know, the only time he ever had a gun in his hand was to kill some innocent people. As soon as he indicated that he wanted military experience, he should have been immediately returned to Oak Ridge, not given a passport and sent to Israel. Not to mention, why would Israel want a convicted psychopathic killer in their ranks? Why would they accept him? What did it take to have this guy transferred to Israel and into the military, where he gets military training, then he comes back to Canada -- clearly a psychopath -- with military training? There you go. Matthew Charles Lamb was the Manchurian Candidate and he was proof, definitive proof that their program worked. That they could take a psychopath and direct him into something useful, i.e. a soldier of fortune, and that's the Matt Lamb story. Very, very interesting story. If you’d like more info, Steve Smith has rare footage of MKULTRA experiments at Penetang on his website, as well as some disturbing news reports. http://www.thepsychopathmachine.com/media.html The F Ward (lost Canadian documentary on Penetang) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6OBy-9s_p0 Many of these patients are still reoffending today, from sex crimes to murder. How many facilities were involved? How many MKULTRA-amplified psychopaths are out there?
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Getting The Fear
Jan 15, 2020
In General discussions
Joseph Edward Duncan III is an American convicted pedophilic and ephebophilic serial rapist, abductor, arsonist, and later serial killer, family annihilator, and stalker. Juvenile mugshot He is infamous for the 2005 murders of several members of the Groene family and abductions of the two youngest children, one of which he later killed. https://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/Joseph_Duncan_III Fargo businessman helped Idaho suspect make bail and-regional/fargo-businessman-helped-idaho-suspect-make-bail/article_4173cb3e-a297-5365-afb1-75ec3567f97a.html FARGO - A businessman wrote registered sex offender Joseph Duncan a $15,000 personal check to help Duncan make bail after he was charged with child molestation in Minnesota, police say. Joe Crary, of Fargo, wrote the check to Duncan on April 5, the same day a Becker County, Minn., judge set his bail at that amount, said Chad Jutz, a police investigator in Detroit Lakes, Minn. Duncan had moved to Fargo in 2000 after his release from a Washington state prison. A couple of weeks after posting bail, Duncan disappeared. He was charged Tuesday in Idaho with murder and kidnapping in the bludgeoning deaths of three family members at their home near Coeur d'Alene. State kidnapping charges in the abduction of two children from the home - Shasta Groene, 8, and Dylan Groene, 9 - were dismissed, to be handled by federal prosecutors. Duncan was arrested July 2 at a Coeur d'Alene restaurant, where he appeared with Shasta. The body of Dylan Groene was found later near a Montana campground. Crary, 51, a former executive member of the Fargo-Cass County Economic Development Corp., explained his connection to Duncan in a statement he faxed Monday night to the Forum. "We both enjoyed biking on the bike trails in Fargo and we became acquaintances," Crary wrote to the newspaper. "In my contact with him, I saw him like many others apparently did - he was polite, soft-spoken, and seemed sincere in turning his life around." Duncan also was having financial problems, Crary wrote. "I was trying to help him get things straightened out, just like I have tried to help many others over the years," he told the Forum. Duncan mentions a "Joe" in a Jan. 30 post to his Web journal, Blogging the Fifth Nail: "My friend Joe has agreed to take me by the hand financially and show me how to spend my money constructively. Now that is a good friend! I've been out of prison for almost five years now and I'm still living from paycheck to paycheck." Jutz, the police investigator, said a subpoena of Duncan's bank records by the Detroit Lakes police revealed the connection with the Fargo businessman. Crary said Duncan first posted a personal $15,000 check for bail on April 5, then called Crary on his way home for a loan to cover it. In his statement, Crary listed the reasons why he believed Duncan was not a flight risk. He said Duncan was working on a college degree and holding down two jobs, and that Duncan had returned from a trip to Kansas City after receiving his court summons. "Furthermore, he assured me he was innocent of the charges in Becker County," Crary wrote in his statement. Crary is known as a real estate developer, investor and part owner of Fargo's Braaten Cabinets. Forum records show he served on the executive committee of the Fargo-Cass County Economic Development Corp. from at least 1996 to 2001. Joe Crary is the second professional with ties to Fargo who is known to have helped Duncan in Becker County. Dr. Richard Wacksman, a pediatrician who once lived in Fargo, told police he gave $6,500 to Duncan before his first court hearing in the Becker County case to help with attorney fees. In 1997, Wacksman asked a prison board in Washington to allow Duncan to be released to live at Wacksman's home in Harwood, just north of Fargo. The board members, who were considering whether to send Duncan back to prison for parole violations, rejected the proposal, saying they would not expose Wacksman's children to that kind of risk, prison records show. Duncan served 14 years in a Washington state prison for raping a 14-year-old boy at gunpoint in 1980. He was a month from his 17th birthday when the attack occurred. Wacksman, now living in Florida, told the parole board he met Duncan at a San Francisco coffeehouse. It was not clear how long they were acquainted. He has not responded to several calls for comment. 20050827225412/http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/krem_071805moreonduncan.c7673e0.html Joseph Duncan’s old blog: https://fifthnail.blogspot.com/?m=1 This is his current blog. Although he’s currently incarcerated he writes to someone on the outside who publishes his writings. https://5nchronicles.blogspot.com/?m=1 More info https://web.archive.org/web/20050827225412/http://www.jaimesite.homestead.com/josepheduncaniii.html
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Getting The Fear
Dec 21, 2019
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Victim https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Moss_(writer) In 1994, Moss was an 18-year-old college student at UNLV. While studying for his honors thesis, he established relationships by correspondence with John Wayne Gacy, Richard Ramirez, Henry Lee Lucas, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Charles Manson. He obtained samples of correspondence from and interviews with these men. Moss researched what would most interest each subject, and cast himself in the role of disciple, admirer, surrogate, or potential victim. In his book Moss said that he had been interested in a career with the FBI. He thought that gaining the trust of a serial killer, possibly learning more about their stated crimes or unsolved murders, was a way to distinguish himself as a job candidate.[1] Moss forged the strongest relationship with Gacy; their letters led to regular Sunday morning phone calls, during which Gacy reiterated his innocence even as he gave Moss a guided tour of his world. In the book, Moss recounts his correspondence and eventual two meetings with Gacy about two months before the killer was executed. Moss believed that he became Gacy's "last victim" after this face-to-face meeting in prison, in essence being psychologically overpowered by the manipulative, depraved sociopath. For a time he suffered nightmares from the encounter.[2] Moss felt that this misadventure allowed him to understand how a killer's mind works in controlling the vulnerable and forcing them to submission. He based the title of his book on this episode. Reception: The book became a bestseller, selling 76,000 copies in its first 10 weeks. In 2000 the paperback edition also appeared on the Bestseller List of the New York Times. Sales were boosted by controversy over Moss's methods. The author was interviewed on TV's 20/20and Hard Copy, and radio's The Howard Stern Show. People argued whether Moss was exploiting the lurid histories of these killers or whether he contributed to studies of criminal psychology. Suicide Jason Moss died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head in his Henderson, Nevada home on the morning of June 6, 2006.[2] The significance, if any, of his chosen suicide date (6/6/06) has been the subject of speculation. According to his co-author Kottler, Moss reportedly had delved "heavily into Satanic stuff" while researching material to prepare for his correspondence with serial killers and while writing his book, but sounded upbeat in their last conversation before his death.[2] Gacy/Norman/Corll sex trafficking news report: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t1VpZHO5WC8
I believe the John Wayne Gacy/John D. Norman/Dean Corll human trafficking network claimed a last victim on 6/6/06- author Jason Moss content media
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Getting The Fear
Dec 11, 2019
In General discussions
https://www.winterwatch.net/2019/12/corpsewood-manor-true-crime-like-no-other/
Corpsewood Manor: True Crime Like No Other content media
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Getting The Fear
Dec 03, 2019
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I just watched the recent horror film “Ready Or Not”, which is about an old money blueblood family that worships satan and sacrifices goats and humans in dark rituals. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt7798634/ Turns out a member of the Vanderbilt family produced it. Disturbing. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Vanderbilt James Vanderbilt also produced the film Zodiac and some propaganda flicks....A bit obvious if you ask me, but these are niche opinions. In the ritual sacrifice scene they kept chanting “Shemhamphorash“, which is a very esoteric kabbalistic/satanic term. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shem_HaMephorash BTW I wish more of our lurkers would chime in. I know you’re there;)
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Getting The Fear
Nov 28, 2019
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British Link To Snuff Films https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/oct/01/ameliagentleman.philipwillan Excerpt from the documentary “Snuff” https://vimeo.com/105427472 There are many more leads here but it seems this forum is pretty savvy. No need to preach to the choir. For noobs look into Peter Scully or the Dnepropetrovsk maniacs. Cheers.
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Getting The Fear
Nov 17, 2019
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Two men arrested over the death of a girl found on the Queen's Sandringham Estate in Norfolk will not be prosecuted, police said. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-19715353 This isn’t the first time a body was found at a high profile estate. Dating Game killer Rodney Alcala left a body on the Rockefeller estate: “Ellen's bones had been found at the old Rockefeller estate in Westchester County, New York. It was a favorite photo-shoot location for Alcala.” https://www.marieclaire.com/culture/a4576/rodney-alcala-dating-game-killer/ The same Rockefeller family that Ted Bundy worked for: https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2019/01/222565/ted-bundy-job-political-campaigner-lawyer “In between schools, he (Bundy) attended the Republican National Convention in 1968 as a delegate for Nelson Rockefeller.” White House took 6 days to report Marvin Bush's maid crushed to death in driveway Her name was Bertha Champagne. She worked for George H.W. Bush son Marvin Bush, who was in charge of World Trade Center security company Stratasec during the 9/11 attacks.Here’s a bit more info on his maids death: https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x406624 https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Bertha_Champagne The police report filed by Pfc C. E. Beach on December 4, 2003 states “During the course of my investigation I interviewed Marvin Bush. Marvin stated that he arrived home at approximately 2045 hours. He advised me that he had a brief conversation with with Bertha in the kitchen. Bertha then tells Marvin that she wants to show him a video tape of her and President Bush. She then leaves the residence to take out the family dogs and retrieve the video tape. There are no witnesses to the crash.” https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Bertha_Champagne I remember this story clearly but am having trouble finding the original mainstream news articles. Here’s some more sauce: http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewstory.php?storyid=3079 Another Rockefeller estate body: SHOOTING VICTIM'S BODY FOUND NEAR ROCKEFELLER ESTATE IN NW https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1991/11/06/shooting-victims-body-found-near-rockefeller-estate-in-nw/c269cc33-b83a-4873-856a-668d114cc397/ Let’s also not forget the body found on Sir Jimmy Savile’s property that was attributed to his friend serial killer Peter Sutcliffe, possible patsy. I remember Savile petitioning for sex workers to visit Sutcliffe’s hospital because “they have sexual needs.” Can’t find link at the moment. Another memoryholed article it seems. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2229786/Jimmy-Savile-Yorkshire-Ripper-Cast-DJs-teeth-check-bites-left-Peter-Sutcliffes-victims.html I’m sure I’m missing some cases. Anyone here heard of similar incidents?
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Getting The Fear
Nov 15, 2019
In General discussions
https://www.winterwatch.net/2019/11/unfathomable-belgiums-perverted-justice-system-entertains-release-of-child-killer-marc-dutroux/
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Getting The Fear
Oct 29, 2019
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https://www.winterwatch.net/2019/10/the-fbi-declassifies-files-on-the-finders-child-trafficking-case-involving-mcmartin-preschool/
The FBI Declassifies Files on The Finders and McMartin Pre-school Child Trafficking Cases (excellent article by Winterwatch) content media
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Getting The Fear
Oct 28, 2019
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This weird scene is 40 mins 23 seconds into the 1981 documentary “The Killing Of America”- which is a great doc with lots of interviews with criminals, mass murderers, terrorists, serial killers, etc. EDIT: she can be seen mouthing his words at 40:16 too. How can she lipsync his apparently spontaneous answers to spontaneous questions? https://hooktube.com/watch?v=wALA2gOXj8U Reminds me of the notorious Col. Michael Aquino mouthing the responses of a supposed SRA witness on Oprah. Aquino mouths “I don‘t remember” just as his “opponent” does. I call shenanigans. Remember Aquino was a psyops officer. The Michael Aquino clip is here: https://youtu.be/4NmN_or-ASU?t=3m53s That’s the same Oprah who strongly endorsed the babytrafficking cult leader John Of God. The same Oprah who tried to mindfuck Dave Chappelle after he recoiled from Hollywood depravity. Why Comedian Dave Chappelle Walked Away From $50 million | The Oprah Winfrey Show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlScX2stRuo&app=desktop
Charles Manson answers journalists while Susan Atkins stands by silently mouthing his answers. Bizarre. content media
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Getting The Fear
Oct 21, 2019
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3294196/Devil-worshipper-ate-parts-murder-victims-burying-shallow-graves-backyard-dead-prison-cell-apparent-suicide.html
Devil worshipper 'who ate parts of his murder victims before burying them in shallow graves in his backyard' found dead in his prison cell  content media
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Getting The Fear
Oct 20, 2019
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A bit of levity 🔪
Manson Girl Squeaky Fromme’s Public Service Announcement  content media
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Getting The Fear
Oct 16, 2019
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zKAfiyVJg1Y http://www.bkmag.com/2014/06/27/how-john-wayne-gacy-and-gg-allin-launched-hangover-director-todd-phillips-career/ Personally I loved Hated AND The Joker. Just saying... despite any transgressions I believe Todd Phillips is a talented individual who is on our side.
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Getting The Fear
Oct 16, 2019
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Regarding the Steven Avery case. For further info: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt5189670/ Part 1: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=je35gOEL5wQ Part 2: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9ca27Dgpofw Part 3: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V25mz0IybY4 Very reminiscent of Jeffrey Epstein, John Wayne Gacy and Ted Bundy. Btw here are yelp reviews for the aforementioned secret society. Creepy imagery imo. https://m.yelp.com/biz/eagles-club-manitowoc
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Getting The Fear
Oct 15, 2019
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https://www.oxygen.com/martinis-murder/is-serial-killer-israel-keyes-murder-case-fbi-classified-as-domestic-terrorism I listened to an (apparently deleted) podcast with American Predator author Maureen Callahan. She claimed thousands of files relating to Keyes were still classified for National Security reasons.
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Getting The Fear
Oct 10, 2019
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Memoryholed story preserved here: https://web.archive.org/web/20120921005039/http://amarillo.com/stories/051499/new_forward.shtml Why was Jesse talking to the FBI in 86? That’s far before David Parker Ray’s arrest after a victim escaped in 2001. Even Ray’s Wikipedia page admits police involvement. Also where did he get Sodium Pentothal AKA “truth serum”, which was popular with the CIA at the time? From Wikipedia: “Other women kidnapped from Raymond's Lounge in Truth or Consequences also came forward. The manager of Raymond's Lounge was an accomplice. Ray was an armed State Park officer, and the manager at Raymond's Lounge gave Ray credibility, despite knowing that the women would be kidnapped. Numerous individuals, including members of law enforcement, were accomplices in the torture and raping Box.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Parker_Ray
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Getting The Fear
Sep 27, 2019
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2271442/serial-killer-stephen-port-boasts-of-gay-romps-with-mps-and-a-kids-tv-presenter-in-letters-sent-to-pen-pal-from-prison/
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Getting The Fear
Sep 04, 2019
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http://www.missingpeople.net/current_news_updates.htm A wealth of info.
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